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Jun 6, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Displaying Kwh

After the jumpers I monitored a device at the source and changed the CT type value to match the reported wattage as close to the real wattage as I could. If that's what you're speaking of, then I have done it. If not please point Me in the direction again. Side question, what does the type and range values actually do in the GEM? 

 
Jun 6, 2015
Lights_2_medium Teken 186 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Displaying Kwh

Awesome great to hear!

Makes sure you fine tune any individual CT's from the install I guide I provided to get the most overall accuracy.

 
Jun 6, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Displaying Kwh

Those Jumpers worked like a charm, thanks Teken.

 
Jun 3, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Does everything here look right to you? Because it looks right to me, but it's still failing

 

 

2015/06/03 08:34:44 processing with SmartEnergyGroupsProcessor
2015/06/03 08:34:44 2 buffered packets sn:01100133
2015/06/03 08:34:44 1 calculated packets sn:01100133
2015/06/03 08:34:44 SmartEnergyGroupsProcessor: url: http://api.smartenergygroup
s.com/api_sites/stream
headers: {'User-agent': 'btmon/3.1.1'}
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-0.00)(e_24 0.00000)(p_25 -0.00)(e_25 0.00000)(p_26 -0.00)(e_26 0.00000)(p_27 -
0.00)(e_27 0.00000)(p_28 -0.00)(e_28 0.00000)(p_29 -0.00)(e_29 0.00000)(p_30 -0.
00)(e_30 0.00000)(p_31 -0.00)(e_31 0.00000)(p_32 794.47)(e_32 3.31028)(n_p1 4405
76)(n_p2 417798)(n_p3 6292998)(n_p4 394756)(temperature_t1 0.00)(temperature_t2
0.00)(temperature_t3 0.00)(temperature_t4 0.00)(temperature_t5 0.00)(temperature
_t6 0.00)(temperature_t7 0.00)(temperature_t8 0.00)))
2015/06/03 08:34:45 SmartEnergyGroupsProcessor: 49B url, 1085B payload
2015/06/03 08:34:45 SmartEnergyGroupsProcessor: url: http://api.smartenergygroup
s.com/api_sites/stream
response: Server: nginx
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 15:35:08 GMT
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Connection: close
Status: 200 OK
Cache-Control: no-cache
X-Runtime: 27

2015/06/03 08:34:45 SEG: upload failed: (status nothing_processed)

 
Jun 3, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

No

 
Jun 3, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Nothing was changed. I just stopped using the mains like I told you before and calculated all of the usage myself.

I only re-added the mains before to show you that it was incorrecct.

 

Do you have any experience uploading to SEG via btmon? 

 
Jun 3, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Looked at your dashboard a couple of minutes ago looks like it is now reporting correctly? If so what, what was changed to correct the issues that you had be seeing? 

 
Jun 3, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

All of them have "Negatives ok?" Check marked. As in, they are allowed to go negative.

 
Jun 2, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Make sure that real stream mains  that "negative numbers are not ok" does not have a check mark next to it. Looking at your #'s on the dashboard never comes up negative when it should

 
Jun 2, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

 

Not sure what you mean they are all checked.

Do they have check mark  next to them or you checked them and they don't have a check mark?

 
Jun 2, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

They are all checked.

 
Jun 2, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Please check on all your stream involved with mains and solar, real and calculated, what are the setting for "negative numbers are not ok", all on, all off or mixed?  

 
Jun 2, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

I checked, there are no duplicates and solar and mains are not included.

Also in my previous post, that 953 number for the mains is reached from usage and solar combined. The 1457 is just actual usage. So the main problem is that the solar energy is changing paths. That 953 number comes from the fact that I am using 1457 watts, but 529 of it is coming from the solar and only 953 of it is coming from the mains. So in that respect the number is correct. The problem is as soon as I am using less watts than i am producing with the solar, that energy then repaths out the mains instead of into my circuits and then the mains will show a usage when there is none.

So to recap:

When I am using 100% of my solar energy the mains is correct and the net meter is incorrect.

When I am not using 100% of my solar energy the mains is incorrect and the net meter is correct.

 

As far as I can tell anyway... 

 
Jun 2, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

In your "usage:all circuits calc" make sure you don't have a stream twice, also make sure that the solar stream is not in it also.

 
Jun 2, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Yes it looks correct, but look at the actual usage. For example:

 

Right now

mains is 953

solar is 529

net meter is 424

So it seemss correct, however mains is incorrect in itself. It no longer displays the correct value. My real current total usage is 1457. So why mains says 953 is beyond me.

 

Net is the way I fixed it. I use the Net stream to subtract Solar from Usage (Usage is my calculated stream that adds all the circuits together instead of using mains(because mains is wrong))

 

 
Jun 2, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

It looks like it's working correctly.

see link below, mains show 722 solar shows 635 netmeter 87.0

 

What is net usage and what are the input streams?

 

https://smartenergygroups.com/tnakelsk/photos/2460

 
Jun 2, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Here's the group, I'll update the dashboard to explain what i'm trying to explain to you.

https://smartenergygroups.com/groups/grims_group

 

EDIT: Ok, I'm done setting it up for you, The two widgets that calculate incorrectly are marked as such.

 

I think after all this trouble trying to get everything to work on here, I may just switch to OpenEnergyMonitor. SEG just doesn't provide the widgets I need to and everything is very confusing and non-sensical to setup. Since OEM is open source I'll be able to write my own widgets to do exactly what I need since sam doesn't seem to want to respond to my questions about new/upgraded widgets. That's going to be my project for today is getting that setup and i'll see if it has what I need.

 
Jun 2, 2015
Icon_missing_medium Grimshad 46 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Sure i'll put it up in a minute. 

Just FYI though. I've already been through everything you've explained. + Mains(900) - solar(800) = netmeter(700). It's not calculating correctly. The calculation should be 900-800=100, but what's happening is it's calculating + Mains(900) - Usage(100) = netmeter(700).

 

I solved this calculation problem but not using my mains stream at all. I created a new calculated stream and ADDED all other streams to it with the exception of the mains and solar. That gives me my actual usage, because the mains stream is incorrect because it's adding solar. So after adding all streams together I get my usage and then subtract solar from it.

 

I feel like my messages are not being conveyed effectively across this forum. No matter how I try to explain it, it seems like my explanations of what is happening are not being understood.

 
Jun 2, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Grimshad, why don't you put your dashboard up so others can take a look at it?

see the link below on how to do that.

 

https://smartenergygroups.com/forums/14-Getting-Started/topics/250-Did-you-know-that-you-can-share-your-SEG-Dashboard-s-with-the-world-

 
Jun 2, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 203 posts

Topic: Getting Started / Broken Gadgets?

Current I have my calculated stream doing Mains - Solar. Which doesn't work because the Mains incorrectly calculates because of the solar. So my mains shows I am using 500 watts when in reality i'm generating 500 watts.

That makes sense, 500 minus 0 equals 500. What you need to do is make another calculated stream or two. But first change your actual stream(s) for your mains and remove the "negative numbers are not ok" check marks. Now create a new calculated stream and call it "Net Meter", in this stream include your mains as plus's, this is the streams that you changed above (mains) and also include your solar stream as a minus. This should show your numbers as what your meter is actual doing. By doing this, say if your "actual streams called "mains" is showing 500 watts and your solar is showing 600 watts the "net Meter" should be displaying a negative 100 watts if using the "right now" gadget (this would be what is being sent out your meter to the utility). You could also use these two streams to display the other gadgets such as "usage statistics", "today's cost", etc. 

You need to think outside the box when setting up gadgets they do exactly what they are told to do, that is why you may need to make some addition calculated streams. Don't assume anything.

 

So to get my actual usage.. I need to use a calculated stream and add ALL circuits. Then to get my black vs green, I subtract the solar from it? 

yes

 Well, that worked.. I love how those expensive CT's I put on my mains are now completely useless since they will always display an inaccurate value now.

The issue is not the CT's it's the way the data is presented to the gadgets and the way your solar is transitioned back into your panel. My solar is injected after the meter but before the main CT's and since the voltage from the solar panels (as well as yours) is higher than the utility it allows the electric to flow outward.

 

 

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