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Oct 7, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

Hi all,

Thanks for your feedback on pricing.  I appreciate it, and it is good to hear your views, and some very good points made.

What I am going to do, is review the pricing - to bring it down

Will post back here soon.

Sam, @samotage

 

 
Oct 7, 2015
Icon_missing_medium jpellet 42 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

WELL SAID Tnakelsk!!

 

 

 
Oct 7, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 169 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

I'm not oppossed to paying, I just think $1406.52 per year is a little steep. I know at least five people who use this site, they are all in this tread. I'm assuming most of them in this tread are power users that have on average 60 stream and a couple of calculated stream. Lets say with the new pricing model each one of us pays $50 per month, or $600 per year, that works out $3000 just for the five of us. Trust me I think the SEG site is great, but not that great at $50 per month. I also know that it does cost money to run this site I just think the new pricing model was not well thought out. 

I also think that any data that comes in with a fequency of less than 1 minute should be booted out of the system.

 

 
Oct 7, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 169 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

Currently have a total of 116 streams plus 22 calculated stream. Monthly cost will be $117.21 (this is more than my monthly electric bill)..

Below is the break down, they sure add up.

32 energy, 32 power, 32 amps, 1 voltage, 19 temperature and 22 calculated streams.

 

 
Oct 7, 2015
Icon_missing_medium jpellet 42 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

sandeen...

from what i can see your calculation would be something like this.... but im just guessing

60 reqular streams with a (40-60 second  data) rate is 60*.59 = $ 35.40

say u have 4 calculated streams   thats $7.96

plus the overall accounting fee.. 4.99

total.. $35.40+7.96+4.99= $50/month!...    $600/yr... oucha...  

 

ya that pretty much wipes out the savings of the monitor...  :(

 

 

 
Oct 7, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 169 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

Regardless of the calculated stream, just to send power, energy and amps to seg it will cost $60.00 u.s. Dollars per month if you use every channel of the gem. This doesn't include temperature and pulse channels. I think a flat rate per device pricing model should also be offered. In six months at $60 per month the roi on the dashbox is starting to look good.

 
Oct 7, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

Glenn, you will need to ssh into it, and I know you have the chops to do it.

If not post back and let me know!

Sam.

 
Oct 7, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

Hey Glen and Tony,

Glenn, you an log into your SEGbox and change the data rate in the config file for your SEGbox.  

Tony, and others.  Subscribing to the trial will have a a zero cost invoice generated in the next two weeks (after subscription)  This will provide you with an estimate, and I take this on board too, as I think it would be sensible to have an estimate available and will work out how to do this ASAP.

Very soon, in the next 24 hours or so I will be providing some info about stream data rates, if it's not available in the config report in tools.  This is where it will be.  Plus there will be a warning displayed for people of sub 40 seconds streams.  As I have said many times, 45 seconds is optimal for SEG, however there are still heaps of people sendind sub 10 second data for some reason or another.

Data storage is expensive, and it's killing me!

Thanks for your feedback too, it's appreciated!  Besides SEG is for you - not some hidden third party.

Sam, @samotage

 
Oct 7, 2015
Tony1_medium tnakelsk 169 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

First off, I was hoping that for existing members Sam would of at least have given an estimate of the monthly cost based on what we have up and running now.

With that said, I send data to seg at one minute intervals, this gives a good balance of actual realtime readings. I currently have a dashbox along with my GEM and I'm going to take a hard look at using that. I might end up with a combination of seg and dashbox for my data.

 

Tony

 
Oct 7, 2015
Icon_missing_medium gdruce 16 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / Configuring Data Rates to work with the new pricing plans ?

What's the best way to configure the data rates to work with the new pricing model ?

Looking to back off my 41 streams from what looks like about a 40 sec data rate to something a little softer before I run out of the trial period.

 
Sep 25, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / anyone interface a seg-sytem to a timer/relay board? Want to control my sprinkler valves...

Hey Randy,

It can be done with your SEGmeter, which has relay outputs with the Relay in the SEGshop that hits up either 12V default or 5V with a small mod coils.  There are 3 controllable relays per SEGmeter.

I do know there are a bunch of other relay boards out there that can also be controlled by SEGmeter too.  Just about any 240V or 120V relay on the output side would work for 24VAC.

Sam, @samotage

 
Sep 19, 2015
Teles2012img_5162_medium dakinecrib 19 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / anyone interface a seg-sytem to a timer/relay board? Want to control my sprinkler valves...

anyone interface a seg-sytem to a timer/relay board? Want to control my sprinkler valves.

24VAC - need 12+ relays...

 

Thanks in advance for your interest and expertise!! - Randy

 
Sep 17, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: Brultech / HELP cant discover

Seems to me that things are rolling again!

Sam, @samotage

 
Sep 16, 2015
Icon_missing_medium jpellet 42 posts

Topic: Brultech / HELP cant discover

yes august 31st is when i had my hardware problem....  my token IS correct as far as i can see...  SEG says im "online"  but i am not... i think i was for a brief moment today...  but now i am frozen in time...  here is my packet from GEM...

(site 30016205714779e (node gem ? (e_1 53.57)(p_1 3050)(e_2 .22)(p_2 9)(e_3 1.38)(p_3 58)(e_4 35.71)(p_4 2581)(e_5 .20)(p_5 8)(e_6 .00)(p_6 0)(e_7 2.95)(p_7 125)(e_8 .02)(p_8 0)(e_9 9.29)(p_9 393)(e_10 .65)(p_10 26)(e_11 18.34)(p_11 773)(e_12 1.48)(p_12 61)(e_13 3.25)(p_13 137)(e_14 2.67)(p_14 114)(e_15 .19)(p_15 7)(e_16 .02)(p_16 0)(e_17 1.85)(p_17 78)(e_18 .01)(p_18 0)(e_19 .01)(p_19 0)(e_20 .03)(p_20 1)(e_21 1.14)(p_21 48)(e_22 .04)(p_22 1)(e_23 10.29)(p_23 436)(e_24 .32)(p_24 13)(e_25 .12)(p_25 5)(e_26 3.21)(p_26 136)(e_27 .16)(p_27 6)(e_28 .06)(p_28 2)(e_29 .13)(p_29 5)(e_30 .00)(p_30 0)(e_31 .00)(p_31 0)(e_32 .14)(p_32 5)(n_4 0)(temperature_1 67.0)(temperature_2 x)(temperature_3 x)(temperature_4 x)(temperature_5 x)(temperature_6 x)(temperature_7 x)(temperature_8 x)(voltage 118.1)))

I really stuck here.. please..

 

jp

 

 
Sep 16, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: Brultech / HELP cant discover

31 August was the last time anything was seen from your last IP address.

Sam, @samotage

 
Sep 16, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: Brultech / HELP cant discover

Then, if no data is coming in you could have your site token wrong or some other problem on your end of the end of the internet!

 

 
Sep 16, 2015
Icon_missing_medium jpellet 42 posts

Topic: Brultech / HELP cant discover

no it is not

 

 
Sep 16, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: The Open Grid / Calculations not calculating..

Ooops, the bots were having a rest while some other stuff was going on.

All should be better now.

Sam, @samotage

 
Sep 16, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: SEGmeter / shark

Hey Steve,

You will need to connect your computer to the blue comms board with an ethernet cable.  You may also likely need to turn off your wifi on the computer as well.

Then the url http://192.168.110.1/cgi-bin/luci/admin/network

Should work.

Sam, @samotage

 
Sep 16, 2015
Samotage_300_medium samotage 555 posts

Topic: Brultech / HELP cant discover

Hey JP, 

Is SEG getting stuff in the API trace?

Sam, @samotage

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